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WTF!!! This is why we should not be lumped in with PI's

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:31 am    Post subject: WTF!!! This is why we should not be lumped in with PI's Reply with quote

Look at what this Firm calls "Computer Forensics"

http : // detective-group . com/computer-forensic.php

I am currently taking a CF training course form Infosec and after paying the $2200.00 I find these articles claiming I have to become a PI to use my skills. Will I be able to use the skills I am currently acquiring in any capacity without a PI license? It looks like I need one even if I am an employee in case something goes to litigation.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last I checked, a PI license is required to practice CF in California. You could of course work for a law enforcement agency, since LEOs are customarily excluded from such laws whilst operating in their official capacity.

You should of course consult with an attorney to obtain proper legal advice since I'm not a lawyer, and I don't live/work in CA so have not made a thorough inquiry into this.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too many "impressive" words in many sentences...

"...Our expert team of professional computer forensic investigators...."
"...We can also provide important evidence by strategically evaluating the digital trail left by the subject..."

Clicking their Cell Phone Forensics link takes you to a page titled Computer Forensic Services (same title as the link you provided) but different wording.

Things that make you go... "hmmmm" Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand that I have to obtain a PI License in CA but the wording this firm uses doesn't sound like they actually know what Computer Forensics is.

Not having a PI License would restrict me from doing what exactly? Working with Law Enforcement and in the courts as an Expert Witness? If I were an employee of a company could I be called to testify if I found a security Breech or Crime of some sort? Just trying to figure out if I should pack these books up and send them back to Infosec before I get started. Computer Forensics is very interesting but I don't want to waste $2200.00 on certs that are going to be useless until I get more certs, you know what I mean.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just raised a point that was most ably brought to the forefront by the American Bar Association: that PI licensing is in no way indicative of skill or experience in computer forensics, and that further it can muddy the water by creating the impression that being licensed as a PI indicates some ability in CF.

If you really want to do this as a career, then look up the laws in your state, or consult a lawyer. If you're looking to pay for training, then ask the trainer what the opportunities are in your state. Or find a prospective employer in CA and ask them about licensing.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's nothing wrong with gaining the experience of being a P.I., as well as having the licensing.

i agree that many of those websites are a big load of marketing BS. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can understand the states wanting a CFE to be licensed but maybe should have a separate lic than PI as one doesn't certify the other. Maybe a Forensics Assoc could lobby this.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on your locale.
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