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DoDForensics
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:45 pm    Post subject: For anyone looking to get into Forensics.... Reply with quote

We seem to get a post about "How do I get into computer forensics?" everyday and no one seems to look at the previous posts, so I'm going to summarize the options when it comes to Certifications and Training...

Online training is always an option! Especially the CCE bootcamp. You can take it either from ISFCE's website (cftco.com) or from Kennesaw State University at kennesaw.edu/coned/sci/index.htm

Or if on a Linux platform, have them check out ftp .hq.nasa.gov/pub/ig/ccd/linuxintro/ - a Law Enforcement introductory guide to forensics with Linux. Written by Barry Grundy of NASA (yes, the space people).

Continuing on the Linux platform they could try Autopsy (a free forensic web browser front end for The Sleuth Kit) - both available for free at sleuthkit.org/

There are also a number of good pdf intro to forensics out there such as:

CERT First Responder Guide to Computer Forensics available at sei.cmu.edu/publications/documents/05.reports/05hb001.html

CERT First Responder Guide to Computer Forensics - Advanced available at cert.org/archive/pdf/05hb003.pdf

Investigations involving the Internet by NIJ available at ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/210798.pdf

National High Tech Crime Unit (UK) computer forensic guide available at devon-cornwall.police.uk/v3/pdfstore/ElecEvid.pdf

And then you have sites like forensicswiki.org/ Note the "s" at the end of forensic otherwise you end up at the wrong site.

And sites from people like Dan MARES (http://www.maresware.com/) and Paul SANDERSON (sandersonforensics.com/) who both offer free tools along with paid ones, and both have a plethora of links to other resources.

Personally I would not recommend them to jump into Brian Carrier's book as an intro into the world of forensics. It's an excellent resource for filesystems. But it may be a bit much for someone looking to get their feet wet.

With all of the above it's plenty to get someone introduced to the world of computer forensics. Some of the PDFs may be slightly dated.

But even so the principles will generally still be applicable.

Certifications

Civilian Certs....

CISSP - isc2.org

GCFA - giac.org/certifications/security/gcfa.php

CCE - certified-computer-examiner.com/

CCFT - htcn.org/cert.htm

EnCE - guidancesoftware.com/training/ence/index.asp

ACE - accessdata.com

Law Enforcement / Government only Certs....

CFCE - cops.org

CEECS - cops.org
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoDForensics, great post.

Admin5, any thoughts about making this stickey?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the great post!

I have been reading through the information here, and was having a hard time figuring out the basic recommendation for people that already have careers in the computer industry to move over to Computer Forensics.

Sounds like practicing at home, which I have started, and supplementing my college education with some certifications, along with getting hands on experience, is one avenue.

I appreciate the comment about doing volunteer work. I was not aware that this was a possiblity in the field. I will look into that as an option in my area.

Thank you for monitoring the forum and aiding us newbies. It is greatly appreciated!!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoDForensics:
WOW, thanks for all the info this is exactly what I signup for I already downloaded some pdf's and reading
I have been in the computer bizz for going on 20 years and my brother who is a Deputy Coroner in StJohn's county, inspired me to get into computer Forensics Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Thanks so much Reply with quote

Bang on Target buddy...

Great stuff.. found excatly what i was lookin out for. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: THANK YOU Reply with quote

Thank you so much for the helpful info!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrow Very nice post. However... Think you or anyone else could come up with a list of colleges that offer the degree? Only could find Champlain College in Vermont myself, but there has to be more than that right?

If you could that'd be great thanks. Cool


*Quick edit: Non-online colleges. Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mouse.

Devry University Online Offers this course.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might also want to check into ITT Technical Institute. They offer an online computer forensics specialist associate degree program and a cyber security bachelors degree program as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a cool place to find information about the theme, thanks all for the post,
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great Post DOD, I currently in school right now and find myself getting more and more materials to read that some of the things my instructors say I actually can hold a convo about it and i'm only in my second class. So hopefully all the reading pays off. But it's nothing like hands on.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the great posts, quick question, my son is wanting to get a degree in computer forensics and or cyber crime prevention, we looked at Devry and Itt tech, do you know if either one of these are valid for a real world job?

Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cgeddie wrote:
Thanks for the great posts, quick question, my son is wanting to get a degree in computer forensics and or cyber crime prevention, we looked at Devry and Itt tech, do you know if either one of these are valid for a real world job?

Thanks in advance
What is your opinion of those schools? Would you hire someone at your company with a degree from one of those schools?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the information that you have posted. I have been searching for anything that will help me get where I need to be. I am currently enrolled in computer classes to freshen up and I am looking forward something new.
Thanks again,
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info! Have been looking for a way to leverage my IT skills and knowledge.
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